WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Sniper 3:48 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
You know when you get the letter about it and it says something along the lines of 'based on your NI contributions your pension is....' Does that mean that the works by benefit stealing inbred son Jeremy Kyle get a letter saying 'based on your NI contributions you get the square root of fuck all'?

1964 3:44 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
If they are cutting back on State oensions, I assume they will reduce the NI contributions to match so the money can be used in a private pension.

NO? fuck off

Northern Sold 3:44 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
I'm with you 1964... been in the same team (of 20 to 30) for the last 15 years and at last count 6 have died in service... youngest 45 and oldest 60... yeah we are living forever

Sniper 3:40 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Spot on mr John

Imagine having a mortgage on a house for £20k? And the house actually being worth ten times that only a couple of decades later?

Old people are shit

1964 3:39 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
All bollocks. Wher's the evidence we are all living longer. I'm 65 and all I hear is my old workmates popping off.

In the 70s when a lot of technology was coming on board we were sold the pup that new technology would make everyone be able to work less and retire earlier.

What happened to that? Who got the benefit?

I fear for my kids and grandkids I relly do!

BRANDED 3:37 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Mr John

It will take about 30 years to sort that shit out. Meanwhile the old cunts still moan.

Northern Sold 3:34 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Mr John... yeah but we had TB and Rickets

Mr John 3:26 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
what pisses me off is the generation thing: The old now have it so fooking easy having benefitted from:
a) massive house price boom;
b) proper career jobs;
c) gold plated final salary etc pensions;
d) 'trip locked' current state pensions;
e) better funded public services back in the day
f) early retirement
g) the wives that could afford to stay at home and look after kids whilst husband worked.


and the current young/middle aged generation have to put up with:
a) massive government debt;
b) massive house prices;
c) fooked up public services due to (a);
d) no retirement due to (a)
e) complete lack of any decent industry or manufacturing
f) cut backs in any forms of tax relief (marriage allowance, child benefit, pension cut backs). so we pay more and get less;
g) wives that have to go out to work because the husbands can't bring enough wedge home. And then you have to spend a fortune on child care because the older generation are too busy frigging going on holiday to do a bit of childcare.
h) a country that's gone to the dogs.
which of course, is all thanks to the older generation. Yeh. Nice one. Thanks a fucking lot.

And despite all that, the government never have a pop at the older generation when it comes to taxes and spending cuts. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT VOTE.

This country is shite.

Big Dave 2:03 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
National pension has always looked like some kind of ponzi scheme

As has been said, average lifespan has been increasing for years but noone - Tories or otherwise - had done a thing to change it until recently. Bonkers.

What we need is a good old fashioned plague epidemic

riosleftsock 1:55 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
What is ridiculous (and would be illegal if an employer did this), is taking our pension contributions and spending them on political projects and trying to fund today's pensioners from today's contributors.

Its fucking barmy.

overbyyer 1:50 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Comma, its only a reality tactic for people who have lived recklessly and have no other meaningful form of income other than a state pension.

People who have remortgaged several times on an interest only mortgage basis and will have to sell the house at the end of the term.

Fleeced by admin charges, losing half of the pension pot when you die. Pension schemes that collapse, or are found to have been subject to am employer's pension contribution 'holiday'.


If you've got enough set aside in terms of hard cash, assets and equity in property etc then why would you pay into a scheme that wants you to die before you get all your money back?

Sniper 1:17 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
It's actually pretty ridiculous how long the pensionable age stayed at 60/65. I'm guessing governments were too scared that the suggestion of raising it would cost them an election.

I'm 33 and I reckon the retirement age will be more like 80 by the time i get there.

BRANDED 1:01 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Yeah. An obvious bring up to date tactic. Like working together.

, 12:59 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Over by, it is not a scare tactic but more a reality tactic. The fact is that demographically people are living longer and the state pension will not cope in its present form without raising the pensionable age.

overbyyer 12:50 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Its another scare tactic - must the same civil servants that are looking after the IN campaign.

Pay all you want in, the admin fees and the other penalties are a rip-off.

Live your life, but don't spunk away money you haven't got, don't remortgage your house beyond its viable value and except that downsizing to a smaller home when you retire is not a life failure.

madeeasy 12:40 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
you're better off investing now and reinvesting and having liquid cash.

Key to it all is to invest what you can now, to have as large of a passive income as you can.

Annony 12:32 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Mugs game, can't take it with you.

Private Dancer 12:29 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
I'm with Grumps, I couldn't give a fuck. Way too sensible for me to worry about what might be 25 years away.

Hugh Jampton 12:15 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
My mortgage isn't due to be paid up until I'm 69 anyway!

Grumpster 12:14 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
Thankfully I'll be long dead by then, so have never bothered with a pension.

BRANDED 12:12 Wed Mar 2
Re: pension
I'd hate to retire. I love to be working on the day I die.

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